{"id":7137,"date":"2018-09-27T20:25:00","date_gmt":"2018-09-27T18:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.humboldtforum.org\/magazin\/artikel\/moderne-kunst-hinter-barocken-fassaden\/"},"modified":"2020-05-22T17:23:08","modified_gmt":"2020-05-22T15:23:08","slug":"modern-art-behind-baroque-facades","status":"publish","type":"magazine-article","link":"https:\/\/www.humboldtforum.org\/en\/magazine\/article\/modern-art-behind-baroque-facades\/","title":{"rendered":"Modern art behind baroque facades"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"block block-copy\" >\n    <div class=\"container-fluid\">\n\t\t<div class=\"row \">\n            <div class=\"col-xs-12 col-md-offset-2 col-md-8\">\n                <div class=\"box\">\n                    <div class=\"copy\"><h6>Mr Hegner, why is the Humboldt Forum also a venue for contemporary art?<\/h6>\n<p><em>Hans-Dieter Hegner:<\/em> The Humboldt Forum will be a modern cultural venue with museums, exhibitions and events. We won\u2019t be restricted to any particular genre or era. And precisely because we\u2019re going to be an international institution as well, contemporary artists from all around the world will be shown here.<\/p>\n<p><em>Lars-Christian Koch:<\/em> Of course, the ethnological collections are particularly notable for their historical depth. Nonetheless, it is our job to make the Humboldt Forum a forum for now, for the present day. One aspect of this is naturally international contemporary art. That doesn\u2019t mean the ethnological collections of the Staatliche Museen zu Berlin are going to switch completely over to contemporary art. But modern art will play a major role in our exhibitions. We want to present other aspects of non-European collections. Works of contemporary art have been part of the ethnological collections for a considerable time now. But this kind of art doesn\u2019t come about just because I label it art; it\u2019s created by exhibitions and educational activities.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t    <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n\n<section class=\"block block-copy-quote\">\n\t<div class=\"container-fluid\">\n\t\t<div class=\"row center-xs\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"col-xs-8 col-md-2 col-md-offset-0 quote-image\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"box\" data-motion-parallax='{\"child\":\".image-wrapper\",\"mask\":\".lazy-media\",\"tween\":{\"yPercent\": [-10,10]}}'>\n\t\t\t\t\t\n\t<lazy-media-inline inline-template>\n\t\t<figure itemscope itemtype=\"http:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\" class=\"lazy-media-inline \" role=\"group\" id=\"media_69eb6d9154515\" aria-labelledby=\"desc_media_69eb6d9154515\">\n\t\t\t<script type=\"application\/json\" ref=\"data\">\n\t\t\t\t{\n\t\t\t\t\"sizes\" : {\"medium\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094557-300x200.jpg\",\"width\":300,\"height\":200,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"large\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094557-1024x683.jpg\",\"width\":1024,\"height\":683,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"thumbnail\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094557-150x150.jpg\",\"width\":150,\"height\":150,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"medium_large\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094557-768x512.jpg\",\"width\":768,\"height\":512,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"1536x1536\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094557-1536x1024.jpg\",\"width\":1536,\"height\":1024,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"2048x2048\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094557-2048x1365.jpg\",\"width\":2048,\"height\":1365,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"original\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094557-scaled.jpg\",\"width\":2560,\"height\":1707}},\n\t\t\t\t\"alt\" : \"Businessman in a suit sits at a table gesturing while speaking. Bright, professional office environment.\",\n\t\t\t\t\"path\" : \"\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2020\\\/07\\\/\",\n\t\t\t\t\"video\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"autoplay\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"youtube\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"youtubelabel\" : \"Play video\",\n\t\t\t\t\"brightness\" : 100,\n\t\t\t\t\"crop\" : {\"top\":\"35.44\",\"left\":\"68.07\"},\n\t\t\t\t\"background\" : true,\n\t\t\t\t\"scale\" : 2\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t<\/script>\n\n\t\t\t<div class=\"height-container\" style=\"padding-bottom:66.6796875%;\" v-if=\"sizes\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<lazy-media :inline=\"true\" :alt=\"alt\" :sizes=\"sizes\" :scale=\"scale\" :brightness=\"brightness\" :path=\"path\" :video=\"video\" :autoplay=\"autoplay\" :youtube=\"youtube\" :crop=\"crop\" :youtubelabel=\"youtubelabel\" :background=\"background\" media-id=\"desc_media_69eb6d9154515\"><\/lazy-media>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-container-fluid\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-row end-xs\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-col\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info\" aria-expanded=\"false\" :aria-expanded=\"isOpen ? 'true' : 'false'\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<button class=\"lazy-media-info-head button-tiny\" :class=\"{'button-active': isOpen}\" @click=\"toggle\" ref=\"head\"><span class=\"button-label insignificant\">Image info<\/span><\/button>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"lazy-media-info-body\" ref=\"body\" id=\"desc_media_69eb6d9154515\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-body-content\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div>Hans-Dieter Hegner\n<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"insignificant\">\u00a9 SHF \/ Photo: David von Becker<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-head-border\"><\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t<\/lazy-media-inline>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<figure class=\"col-xs-10 col-md-6 quote-copy\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"box\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"container-fluid\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"row\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"col-xs-10 col-xs-offset-1 col-padding-remove\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"box\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"icon-zitat quote-copy-icon  \"><\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<blockquote class=\"quote-copy-headline Zitat\">We won\u2019t be restricted to any particular genre or era.<\/blockquote>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<figcaption class=\"quote-copy-subline Copyright\">Hans-Dieter Hegner<\/figcaption>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t<\/figure>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n<section class=\"block block-copy\" >\n    <div class=\"container-fluid\">\n\t\t<div class=\"row \">\n            <div class=\"col-xs-12 col-md-offset-2 col-md-8\">\n                <div class=\"box\">\n                    <div class=\"copy\"><h6>In addition to the contemporary works from the ethnological collections of the Staatliche Museen there will also be a number of Kunst am Bau or \u201cpercent for art\u201d projects on show at the Humboldt Forum. To what extent will these interact with the collections?<\/h6>\n<p><em>Hans-Dieter Hegner:<\/em> I just mentioned that we want to be a modern cultural institution. In this respect we won\u2019t just be looking at the individual museums situated within. In addition to its function we\u2019re interested in the site itself. The background is that whenever central government takes on the role of construction client, between 0.5 and 1.5 per cent of the construction costs have to be spent on art for the building. That is a voluntary commitment by central government. We have selected four locations in the building for these art projects: the two staircases above Gates I and IV, the large staircase and the small foyer which will lead to the event rooms and the vestibule of the Berlin Exhibition and the Humboldt Forum Academy. The winning designs for the staircases include one by the artists An Seebach and Christiane Stegat which consciously explores the Humboldt Forum collections, graphically reworking objects from the collections into a Baroque context. I think it\u2019s a highly successful piece. The Berlin collections can trace their roots back to the chamber of art and curiosities in the Baroque palace. Now, with the Humboldt Forum the collections are returning to the place they were first housed.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n                <\/div>\n            <\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t    <\/div>\n<\/section>\n\n<section class=\"block block-header\" >\n\t<block-header inline-template>\n\t\t<figure role=\"group\" aria-labelledby=\"desc_m_69eb6d9154f97\">\n\n\t\t\t<script type=\"application\/json\" ref=\"data\">\n\t\t\t\t{\n\t\t\t\t\"sizes_d\" : {\"medium\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094559-300x225.jpg\",\"width\":300,\"height\":225,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"large\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094559-1024x768.jpg\",\"width\":1024,\"height\":768,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"thumbnail\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094559-150x150.jpg\",\"width\":150,\"height\":150,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"medium_large\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094559-768x576.jpg\",\"width\":768,\"height\":576,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"1536x1536\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094559-1536x1151.jpg\",\"width\":1536,\"height\":1151,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"2048x2048\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094559-2048x1535.jpg\",\"width\":2048,\"height\":1535,\"mime-type\":\"image\\\/jpeg\"},\"original\":{\"file\":\"HF_eb00094559-scaled.jpg\",\"width\":2560,\"height\":1919}},\n\t\t\t\t\"alt_d\" : \"Model of a modern interior with stairs, white walls, and large windows reflecting orange light.\",\n\t\t\t\t\"path_d\" : \"\\\/wp-content\\\/uploads\\\/2020\\\/05\\\/\",\n\t\t\t\t\"autoplay_d\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"crop_d\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"background_d\" : true,\n\t\t\t\t\"scale_d\" : 1,\n\n\t\t\t\t\"sizes_m\" : [],\n\t\t\t\t\"alt_m\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"path_m\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"autoplay_m\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"crop_m\" : null,\n\t\t\t\t\"background_m\" : true,\n\t\t\t\t\"scale_m\" : 1,\n\n\t\t\t\t\"has_mobile_format\" : false,\n\t\t\t\t\"has_ad\" : false,\n\t\t\t\t\"audio_description_yt\" : null\t\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t<\/script>\n\t\t\t<div class=\"height-container\" style=\"padding-bottom:74.9609375%;\" v-if=\"sizes\" data-motion-parallax='{\"child\":\".image-wrapper\",\"mask\":\".lazy-media\",\"tween\":{\"yPercent\": [-15,15]}}'>\n\t\t\t\t<lazy-media :inline=\"true\" :scale=\"scale\" :alt=\"alt\" :sizes=\"sizes\" :brightness=\"brightness\" :path=\"path\" :video=\"video\" :autoplay=\"autoplay\" :youtube=\"youtube\" :crop=\"crop\" :youtubelabel=\"youtubelabel\" :background=\"background\" media-id=\"desc_m_69eb6d9154f97\"><\/lazy-media>\n\t\t\t\t<button class=\"autoplay-audio-description-btn icon-background icon-audio-describtions\" @click=\"audioDescriptionPlay\" v-if=\"hasAudioDescription\" aria-label=\"Audiodeskription aufrufen\"><\/button>\n\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-container-fluid\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-row end-xs\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info-col\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"lazy-media-info\" aria-expanded=\"false\" :aria-expanded=\"isOpen ? 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Would Ai Weiwei himself be an artist you\u2019d show in the ethnological exhibitions? Or do his works really belong in the Hamburger Bahnhof collection?<\/h6>\n<p><em>Lars-Chrisian Koch:<\/em> We have to deal with this kind of cataloguing every single day. We will, however, indeed be showing a piece by Ai Weiwei. Moreover, we have a large exhibition hall which has been designed by a Chinese artist and architect. In the Schweizersaal, by contrast, we have an entire wall designed by Mariana Deball. And then there will be a work of art from Cameroon on show which explores the problems in that country today. So we don\u2019t just want to present art. We want to show works that really investigate our collections.<\/p>\n<p><em>Hans-Dieter Hegner:<\/em> The construction team and the museums are cooperating well in this area. Right now we\u2019re sourcing a new Japanese teahouse. 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